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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Blisters Reply with quote

Are any of you doing anything better than popping a blister and shooting crazy glue into the cavity and then luekotaping ? So far it is the best thing I have done but it is always good to know other ways. I admit I will use duct tape if I don't have leuko with me. I will also make a molefoam doughnut to protect it if it's bad enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume blisters on your feet WillyP? What are you doing to prevent yourself from blisters in the first place? I learned the hard way as a greenhorn out west in the mountains of Montana. Cotton socks and crappy boots killed my feet on my first hike out in the backcountry.... Sock liner, wool blend socks and Kenetrek boots and I havent had a blister since.







I definitely learned my lesson right away... Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha I was trying to toughen them up some. I lost my callus' a few weeks ago and wanted to build some back so I did a little 1.25 hour 4 mile stroll today and thought I had hotspotted them enough to get things started. NOT It's puffing up Sad I'm going to pop and crazy glue it after I watch the nightly news in an hour. I totally agree no cotton socks on a trip but I will use them to hotspot my feet a little to toughen them getting them ready for trips. I'm headed to the Winds the end of Aug for a trip. Most likely thorlo socks or merinos and my Montrail Hardscramble trailrunners. I'm planning 5 days 4 nights and under 20 pound pack including food, fuel, and water. I'll never get to hunt the Gros Vent or Winds so I'm just going with a few friends to look at it and drool ! I can't get in there legally with a tag but can backpack it till hell freezes over. Makes no sense to me but dollars and cents to the outfitters in there !
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is some spray stuff called Tuff Foot. It helps a little bit.

When I was a kid we used to use tanic acid. We were trying to learn to play the guitar and my fingers were plum raw and hurt like a son of a gun. I would wet the end of my fingers and dip them in the tanic acid powder. The next day I had a callus and could play again.

Back then you could buy a little penny match box full of powder for a dime at the local drug store. But that was over 50 years ago. LOL!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd never heard of the tanic acid thing before. I have used epsom salts to toughen skin in years past for my hands when I would change jobs and wear blisters in new places on my hands. The super glue actually works well. Feet are pretty much fine now and I ordered a roll of leukotape since I was out. That stuff sticks so well you have to let it wear off over days. I'll be ready to start some 9 mile mornings here in a few days.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WillyP wrote:
Ha ha I was trying to toughen them up some


Good idea! Good luck getting ready!! Take care

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willy P, in the past I have used Glacier Gel and REI Tenacious Tape. Never heard of the super glue method will have to try that, good idea. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gobbler1662 wrote:
Willy P, in the past I have used Glacier Gel and REI Tenacious Tape. Never heard of the super glue method will have to try that, good idea. Laughing


Tenacious may be a lot like the leukotape. I don't hotspot or blister on the heels like most folks. I get them on my pads and the ball of my foot and sometimes my big toe. Most times only the right foot. Usually due to a LOT of up and down on steep grades or fast pace. I can do up to about 2.75 mph and be ok but when I hit 3 to 3.5 mph I at least hotspot almost every time. I tend to push off too hard each step. I'm vertically challenged ( short )

Gobbler you can also put the super glue on when you start to hotspot and it will harden the area and make it slick. It also seems to me to go down into the hotspot and sort of bind the skin to stop the blister or help a minor one that doesn't really have enough to pop bind back together.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW the super glue does burn when you put it in the blister. It takes some getting used to !
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fairly good site about blisters if your new to dealing with them:

http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Bookshelf/Books/48/18.cfm

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

????? Maybe a dumb question but how do you keep from glueing your fingers together or anything else while using super glue? if you put it on the hot spots how do you spread it over the spot? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bambam26 wrote:
????? Maybe a dumb question but how do you keep from glueing your fingers together or anything else while using super glue? if you put it on the hot spots how do you spread it over the spot? Confused


It takes a little learning but you use the tip of the tube. I get one use Krazy Glue's in a 5 pack and take however many depending on the trip length. It takes two for a big toe, pad, and ball of my 8.5 size foot.. Biggest problem when squirting it into a blister is not pissing your pants the first couple times when you don't know what to expect ! Shocked It's pretty hot feeling. Works like a charm and IMO not as bad as day two if the skin came off a blister and the untreated blister sticks to your sock and dries.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also when taping if you swab the area with tincture of benzoate it makes the molefoam and tape stick well . Leukotape you don't need the T of B it is some tough sticking stuff !
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At 67 years old,I do not remember ever getting a blsiter on my feet. Good socks and wearing wool or wool blend since high scholl has kept me good. Putting cotton socks on one feet to toughen them up is about like ging out and having someone poke you in the nose just to get use to it.
I have had a pack of moleskine in my kit for almost twenty years and have never used it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saddlesore you are very lucky.

I have always had issues when using heavier boots. Now that I gave up heavy boots I haven't had any problems.

Hey Arrowslinger, got any pics of my feet from a few years ago?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zbearclaw wrote:
Saddlesore you are very lucky.

I have always had issues when using heavier boots. Now that I gave up heavy boots I haven't had any problems.

Hey Arrowslinger, got any pics of my feet from a few years ago?


Weird thing is I am hot spotting and mildly blistering in my trail runners with merino socks and merinos and liners and don't in my Kenetreks or Lowas. I admit I walk at a different pace backpacking than I do hunting with a backpack. For my short little legs a 3+ mph hiking pace for several non stop hours is picking them up and laying them down pretty fast. I can plod along at 2 mph or under all day with no problems.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could run ten miles with sand paper for socks and have less feet issues than hike one mile on flat ground with heavy boots.

I love my Merrell mids, was too stupid for far too long to give up the heavy boot because everyone said I should have them, though they probably saved me from a broken ankle a few years ago but that was luck.

I don't surf on shale anymore...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zbearclaw wrote:
I could run ten miles with sand paper for socks and have less feet issues than hike one mile on flat ground with heavy boots.

I love my Merrell mids, was too stupid for far too long to give up the heavy boot because everyone said I should have them, though they probably saved me from a broken ankle a few years ago but that was luck.

I don't surf on shale anymore...


Where I am at depends on what I wear. WY at under 7800 feet and I will have snake ( antelope hunting at Bill, WY I wear the snake boots ) or at least Kennetreks on. Higher or back in the east and I'll wear my trail runners when backpacking and snake boots when turkey hunting.

BTW I did 5 miles this morning at a 2.63 mph moving average up and down hills and no problems, as I assumed it would be. It's just up around 3 or more mph for extended miles, over 2 basically, that I have the troubles.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill, Wy.!!!!!!!!! Took my first antelope hunt there when I was a senior in high school. It was at a placecalled the 7 up ranch. Not gonna say how many years ago that was. But I'm still a senior. LOL!
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We first went to Bill, Wy. in 1984. The wife killed her first antelope with a "leftover" tag. Imagine that. I think that it is a "preference point" area now. We even joined the "Bill Yacht Club".

We were in a popup tent camper, and some cattle decided to turn it over....with us in it. There I was dressed in my boots and drawers, waving a towel and running them off.

We went back for about the next 5 years and took antelope each year. We started staying at the city park in Douglas. We always ate prime rib at Clementines.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bill Yacht Club. I remember those shirts. That fella had one heck of a sense of humor. The mid 80's was a crowded time thanks to Finn Aggar's article in Peterson's. The crowds come and go now some years they are there and then the next it's pretty open as far as folks. It is weird you might not draw as a NR but you can buy a leftover thanks to the residents that undersubscribe the area. Magic there was a red angus bull there 2 years ago that took offense to me in his area. He was really worked up pawing and throwing dirt in the air clear over his back. Luckily he was on the half section on the road corner a few miles out and I was on the TBNG side of the fence. I did have to run a young black angus bull off with the shovel and a stick banging on the shovel and "love tapping " him on the tail end ! Thank goodness I bluffed him. Look through the pictures and you'll recognize the areas. 2007 antelope and http://picasaweb.google.com/WillyP1956/WYPix# are the albums. I forgot to mention Clemintines turned into a sports bar for a bit and is now named Clemintines again as of 09 but that whole end of town is really built up now. You can still camp at the river area, it has changed a bunch also and there is a motel right at the corner of 59 and the road going out into TBNG. About $135 a night but you save a lot of driving and gas. Still no gas stations except Douglas or Wright, as far as I know, unless one went in last year while I was deer hunting in Cent. WY.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'll admit, it was back in 1961 when we hunted the 7Up ranch out of Bill, Wy. I was a senior in HS and it was my first trip out west.

I remember when we were in Douglas, we stopped to get the truck serviced before heading back to Illinois. At that time you could still get silver dollars in Wyoming. They were gettin hard to come by back in Illinois. So, while we were waiting on the truck, I decided to go a couple of blocks down the street to the local bank. I purchased two $20 dollar rolls and placed one roll in each front pocket of my jeans. I must have looked pretty sill walking back to the gas station, holding on to my belt because those sliver dollars were weighting my pants down half way to my knees!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ha ha WW you were saggin before it was cool. Oh and I bow to the fact you have planet time on me I was at the other end of school in 61.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WW this might be the old ranch you went to . It has changed names but it's in the general area. Near Shawnee.

http://www.rockin7ranch.com/small_game_hunting.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess it could be. And I know it has been close to 50 years ago. But, I vividly remember the brand was inlaid in the middle of the basement floor of the ranch house. It was a big circle with 7up in the middle of it. Looked just like the emblem on the old 7up soda pop bottles. I have often wondered if there may have been ties between the ranch and the bottleing company.
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